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'F' grade on Gunbroker

 
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htimsaj
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: 'F' grade on Gunbroker Reply with quote

Any thoughts on this 'F' grade currently for sale on Gunbroker- original or refinish, etc?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=227070856
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terry buffum
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is a restoration, it looks like a good one. Between my cataracts and the computer screen, I won't render a hard and fast opinion, but it sure looks like a very usable gun, and one I'd be proud to show to friends!

The drop at heel is more than we like today, but one of those lace on "Monte Carlo" pads would help get your cheek onto something solid if you are a shooter.
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DrBob
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would want better shots of the stock. I am not sure that it hasn't been re-stocked. The metal has definitely been re-done, but nicely.
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sidebyside16
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I see. The case colors show thinning at the tops of the breech and on the bottom where the forearm metal meets the wood which is what we'd expect from light use and gun case wear. But the case colors are still very strong on the bottom of the receiver where a lot of thinning is often seen. The stock finish on the forearm near the iron is dark and shrunk into the pores of the wood but the buttstock photo looks light and shiny. This could be from the flash and cleaning or refinishing of the wood.
I'd want to see more close up pics of both sides of the buttstock and the bottom of the forearm including the tip and release. I'd also look for slight blueing (blacking) wear at the muzzles. These things including case and blueing wear, oxidized finish shrinking into the pores of the wood, etc., can be faked. Or it may be a good older restoration on a gun that was subsequently used. Or it may be a real live closet queen that saw little use and was stored under optimal conditions. The seller offers to provide more pictures. I would certainly take him up on it before bidding.
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2-Piper
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a rod cocker with pivot lever this is of course an early gun. His date of 1889 is most likely extremely close. At this time the G grade had not yet been introduced & the F grade had very little engraving. It is also noted this gun has the sear adjusting screws. It has been stated these were only on grades E & higher, but in the early years they seem to have been a feature of all grades. In later years they do seem to have been dropped on the grades below E.
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