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terry buffum
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason,

Those are great photos to have; thank you! But, where are those examples "To Follow"?

Terry
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Marks_21
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you got me Terry. I have a lot of things half done - everywhere.
Articles for the newsletter, articles for DGJ, photos, newsletter index,
Don't get me started on the house or car projects between 20 and 80% done. I'm driving my car right now with new spark plugs in cylinders 5,6 and 6 more spark plugs new in box on the passenger floor board.
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Marks_21
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made some updates to f and c grade pages.
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Sentry44
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marks,

Those pages are great work! I think you pretty much nailed every era of F grade...darn near close with the C grades too.

I think if it were possible (with a lot of members help/submissions) a series like that for every grade would be one of the greatest resources the LACA could have.

I just wish we KNEW for sure who/which engravers did what/when...

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Sentry44
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, following on my last post, heres some qquestion for the crowd.

1. What is the lowest grade gun we have seen signed by the engraver?
2. What are the latest LAC guns to be signed...and by who?
3. Are any crossbolts signed...and if so, by whom? (One of Jacob Glahn's sons?)


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Marks_21
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sentry et all,
I am happy to do any such "work" and I am happy to take photographs given the oppurtunity. I can do photos at the Southern Side by side if anyone would like- for any reason.


As much as I hope for it- I have not found a gun of any grade or any maker signed by the engraver. I have had a few with stock makers marks and initials.
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Sentry44
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marks_21,

I decided maybe I can kick this conversation further by first checking my notes. Like you, I have never seen a signed Lefever. Bob Noble no doubt has a bigger number, but I have noted a total of 7 guns which are signed, either as noted in newsletters or sold at auction. One gun is pictured in Elliot's 2nd book.

All of the following are early guns, within 1,500 serial numbers of each other.

A.E. Spangler - 4
Glahn - 2 (this is presumably Jacob, given the serial ranges)
R.A. Arthur - 1

I have never seen any mention of any of the other names Elliott alludes to. Has anyone else? Kornbrath? Others? Advanced guys, please chime in.

Beyond this, there are quite a few guns which have A.P. Kessel marked in multiple places...not just under the cap or under the butt plate. So I wonder, has anyone researched and/or concluded that A.P. Kessel was more than just a stock man?

Also, does anyone know if Frank Lefever actually engraved the gun which bears his name instead of Lefever Arms? That gun is wonderfully done, so if that were true, it would open a whole host of other questions.

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DrBob
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know Frank LeFever did not do any engraving himself.
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Sentry44
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dr. Bob. I was referring to this gun, specifically. Which, apparently has a Miller single trigger rather than Dan's...?








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